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   Erin Burnett.  (2012)  

    December 6, 2012
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"outfront" tonight, a bright idea. brought to us by the liberal former governor of vermont, howard dean. a man who brought us the scream heard around the world when reran for president. dean says let's face it, america, tacks need to go up for everyone. now, this might not be what you expect from someone like howard dean. it's certainly not the president's position or the position of most americans. another new poll out today shows that most people like the president's idea of only raising taxes on other people. specifically, the top 2%. the problem is according to the congressional research service, the math doesn't add up. that tax hike would only give $678 billion in additional revenue over ten years, now, remember, we're $16 trillion in the debt. now, if we go with howard dean's idea, that gets us $2.8 trillion
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or about 17% of our debt. adam davidson is the cofounder of planet money and he did the math. he wrote in "the new york times" a while ago, a set of numbers that has stuck with me ever since that increasing the middle class tax burden 8% would have a bigger impact than taxing millionaires at 100%. of course, once you tax millionaires at 100%, there's nothing else left to get them the next year. even bill clinton agrees. here's what he said at a conference i saw him at back in may. >> i think you could tax me at 100% and you wouldn't balance the budget. we're all going to have to contribute to this and if middle class people's wages were going
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up again and we had some growth in the economy, i don't think they would object to going back to the tax rates. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting point? "outfront" republican congressman james lankford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. appreciate you're taking the time. what about this idea of racing taxes on everyone? the math works much better. >> i heard your lead in when you said this is a new idea. actually, it's not a new idea, there are several democrats who have floated that for a while. the code word is we want to go back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy that we had a much more vigorous economy and growth and we should go back to the clinton tax rates. what that really means is all tax rates on all americans go back up because the tax rates were brought down in 2001 and
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2003. i don't support that. i don't think that's a great idea. it would slow down the economy. >> when you look at economist's evaluations, it would slow down the economy. it would. there's no question about it. but if the problem is that we have a lot of debt and there has to be some pain whether it be in cuts or the form of higher tax revenues, it means there has to be some pain. $2.8 trillion. that's 17% of our debt wiped out overnight. if you're worried about the debt, how can't you look at that seriously? >> well, the reason i would say it's not going to be 17% of our debt on that because right now, we're running a trillion dollar deficit year single year. if we went back to zero, we're rebalanced.
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right now with the fourth year in a row, that deficit and debt continues to climb. so it doesn't really wipe it out and the challenge of it is what does that do to the overall economy. we're not just dealing with one tax increase as well. a lot of people lose track of that. the affordable care about actually begin on january 1st as well for people making $200,000 or more. or people having large medical bills. this is talking about an additional tax increase on top of that. >> what about what bill clinton
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said? he said once things start to get better and that's a crucial point he was making. once the economy starts to get better, taxes have to go up on the middle class. do you agree? is. >> i don't, actually. and the reason being is that right now, if you look at the real math, in 2007 and 012, we have the same amount of revenue. now, 2008 and 2009, we had a dramatic drop in federal revenues, but we've slowly climbed back up. revenue has gone up every year of the obama administration and now, we're at historic highs. the same as we were five years ago. the difference is, our spending has increased a trillion dollars. >> yeah, but a lot of that spending is things to help the economy. it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported. it's extending unemployment benefits. it's things like that. t the war. >> that's going to be the
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challenge of the whole perspective. we've got two philosophies. one says we're spending too much. the other saying we're not spending enough. that's hurting our economy. obviously, the last four years have been more focused on the spending. we continue to pile up more and more debt, we've crossed 100% of debt to gdp. >> but you're line of thinking, the tax side, so we end up spending more thanks to democrats and the country is going to a worst place. >> the context is really important on this. in 2003 when tax rates were brought down. and then in 2010, we were still in a bad place, the president and democrats said the economy's weak, we can't raise taxing on anybody, including the upper 2% and they choose a weak economy in 2010 not to do that because
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they knew that would hurt the economy. we have the same economy now that we did two years ago. consumer confidence is is up, but gdp growth has gone down. >> tom coburn has been out talking about the fact that rates need to go up on the top 2% in terms of get ago deal done. here he is on abc news. sorry. i'll read it to you. >> so whether we want taxes to go up or not -- taxes aren't going to go up at the beginning of the year if you don't do a deal, so the only deal you could do would have them go up. that seems to be that people like you or a republican, you don't have a lot of leverage. >> and that's the challenge when you're dealing with spending.
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that creates the situation where we say no that's a bad idea. the majority of taxes should not go up, but we also believe it shouldn't go up on the upper bracket. dividends on the upper bracket would move from 15% on december 31st to 43.4% on the first of january. that's a really big cut. the wealthy would stop doing stocks. what this hurts is seniors depending on dividends and pension fund. so it does have a trickle down effect. >> changes haven't really affected stock prices, which is crucial, but fair point. >> it does affect the number of stocks that offer dividends. once dividends went down to that 15% rate, a lot of people ran through that. that would go away, which would cause a major shuffle among senior adults now. >> thank you very much for the
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time now. "outfront" next, chris christie. he went to the white house today. he went hat in hand. he asked for $36 billion in money for new jersey. wait. isn't he a fiscal hawk? plus, syrian president accuses the u.s. of manufacturing stories as a pretext for an invasion. leon panetta responds tonight and a day after john mcagree is taken into custody, he was rush to the hospital. we'll be back. everything hase just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose.
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our second story, chemical weapons. the world is watching syria and america is the country that will act if there is action. defense secretary leon panetta issued a warning to syria today saying the united states will not stand by and watch the
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country cross a quote unquote red line. >> whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. there will be consequences. if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons. >> syria denies it is mobilizing chemical weapons in a civil war in which 40,000 people have lost theirs in 21 months. instead, they say they're trying to create fear and set for an attack. hillary clinton met with russia's foreign minister twice today in dublin.
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these are important meetings because russia is a syrian alley. but is it too late? national security contributor, fran townsend, is a member of the cia. cedrick layton member of the joipt staff. what are those consequences? is the u.s. going to passing the point of no return here? >> well, it is, look, the most recent information suggests they're preparing to be able to launch these warheads containing gas and other chemical weapons. that's a problem because now, a military strike could trigger the dissemination of such
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weapons. what you have to do now is is get the timely tactical intelligence to interrupt the decision cycle. that is get between assad and the individual who presses the button to launch that missile. that's a very ask, very difficult, but now, that's the position we're really in. >> just to be honest, hasn't really seemed to be at least totally aware of everything happening every step of the way here. >> okay, except there was a wmd commission that looked at the failures in iraq and strengthened the committee. there are standards for assessing the credibility of sources. for how an analyst assesses a source and the information. and we know from the president's action against bin laden, he will ask the hard questions, what don't we know.
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what confidence do you have in the sources and intelligence before he makes a decision? >> as fran is referring to, when people think about wmd and the u.s. saying oh, syria has this. a lot of people think back to iraq when the u.s. made claims that turned out not to be true. tom foreman reported on what syria reportedly has. three deadly kinds of chemical weapons. the first is mustard gas. also sarin, can cause tremors and death, then the vx nerve agent. one of the most deadly chemicals in the world. how good is the intelligence on what syria really has? >> it is pretty good, but it's not going to be foolproof and they are going to be some elements of intelligence that are guesswork, but still, they're going to be conjectured. the t not like a court of law where you can go in and say this is the evidence. irrefutable proof. but on the other hand, there are certain things that the intelligence community can do. for example, they can assess how stockpiles are accumulating in the country.
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you mentioned that the russians had supplied some of these chemical agents and that is true. you can assess how each of these areas, you know what they've done, how they've done it and how often. also, you can have some intelligence that specifically outlines exactly how good the chemical weapons are. whether they will be used, what kind of training these people have and all this is weighed in. >> there are reports that the assad regime has loaded on to missiles, that they are ready to go. to your point, you need to get between assad and the person who's going to push the button. how do we know that? that they've loaded them on to missiles? >> there have been reports this week from the "new york times" about preparations and from nbc. now, do we know that's accurate? we don't. they're trying to assess exactly where are they in the decision cycle.
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where are they in the tactical process of preparing those missiles. >> what happens from here? it seems like it's divided more into anarchy and civil war. you have al-qaeda groups. many groups fighting in syria. it's a proxy war some say between the u.s. and iran. if assad goes, there are still 75 chemical weapon sites around this country and others who wouldn't have the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it. >> thank you very much. both of you. "outfront" next, a 20-year veteran of the navy accused
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tonight of being a spy. why officials think he was leaking crucial secrets to the track u.s. submarines. now, this document basically not only outlined the procedures you would use to do that, but the actual technology that you would need to track u.s. submarines. it's very serious because us navy officials will often tell us where surface ships and carriers are located around the world at any particular moment. they almost never discuss where the subs are. that is classified information. now, the zimt says that hoffman thought he was giving this to a russian intelligence agent. actually, what he was doing was handing it over to an fbi agent working an undercover sting. these are very serious charges. he could face life in prison. >> and when you think about what other information he may have had access to, what's his background and what sort of information might he have had? >> pretty high.
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you mentioned he had been in for 20 years. he was a petty officer first class. his rating was a kryps toe logic, a way of saying he was in the intelligence gathering field. he was a naval submarine warfare specialist. so he had access to a lot of information, but the interesting thing is over that 20-year career, he had six good conduct , won numerous awards. remember, he had only be out of the service less than a year when he's trying to allegedly hand over this secret document to a russian spy. >> thanks very much. next, new jersey republican governor chris christie in washington today asking for money. hypocritical or not? and a day after internet guru john mcafee was arrested, he was rushed to the hospital.
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welcome back. we start the second half of our show with stories we ce ow with where we focus on our reporting from the front lines. first, john mcafee was rushed to a guatemalan hospital today. his attorney says he was being treated for cardiovascular problems. he had been taken into custody yesterday, accused of entering the country illegally. here's what he was saying as he was arrested. >> john, where are you going? >> pretty awesome to be in jail in guatemala. he requested asylum, was denied. he could be deported to belize, where of course police want to question him about his neighbor's murder. michigan police were forced
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to block the entrance of the capitol building today. thousands of people stormed it to protest right to work legislation. one police official estimates as many as 4,000 people were inside and around the capitol building. the legislation introduced by rick schneider would limit union's abilities to collect dues. the bill passed the house today. the us navy is moving ships into position to monitor a north korean possible rocket launch. the defense department tells barbara starr that two ships are being moved to an unspecified position to provide reassurance to allies. the sources say it's possible two more ships could be sent to the region in the next few days and the taliban has claimed responsibility for the suicide attack that wounded afghanistan's intelligence chief. an official says the attacker targeted the chief as he was leaving a meeting. hamid karzai told reporters he's cnn's barbara starr that two ships are being moved to an unspecified position to provide reassurance to allies. it's possible two more ships could be sent to the region in the next few days. the taliban claimed responsibility for the suicide attack that wounded afghanistan's intelligence chief today.
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a senior police official says they targeted the chief as he was leaving a meeting. afghan president karzai told reports he's confident he will cover. a programming note, i will report live from afghanistan next week on the future of the country. it has been 490 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? good news tonight. initial jobless claims fell more than expected down 25,000. now our fourth sfoer "outfront." high times in washington state tonight. voters approved the law last month, but while it is legal to smoke pot, toke up, baby, it's not yet legal to grow or sell it. "outfront" tonight, miguel marquez in seattle. his eyes look pretty clear.
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it's legal there. if no one can legally sell marijuana, what does this it law so ground breaking really change? >> reporter: well, one, i've been here for 37 hours so i'm not looking so good tonight. two, you know, this is only the beginning. they are creating an industry here if this thing comes to fruition if the feds don't step in and stop it. pot is legal to own an ounce over 21, it's treated lie hard alcohol. in a year's time you'll have pot stores in and across washington state. you'll have licensed pot growers and processors, cookie bakers, brownie makers and you have stores to buy it in that you wouldn't be able to do it amsterdam style in cafes or coffee houses and oous it there. you have to take it home and use it in private. it will unleash people are saying a wave of an industry and growth here. erin. >> interesting. barney frank told me he eats pot brownies and he said off camera to me he'd eat pot brownies. maybe i have to try them.
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are cops going to leave users alone and go after the dealers? are they going to pursue this at this point? >> reporter: at this point everybody is taking a break and steps back and see where it goes. it's legal to possess. it's not a high profile crime. going forward it's not likely to go after dealers, but they don't want people flaunting the law. they want to put all the processes into place so they will tax it all at 25% by the way. they believe that in the first couple of years they'll make as much as $500 million a year to the state budget. it's a pretty big piece of the budget. >> it certainly is. the problem is, of course, this is a whole state's rights versus the federal government. you have colorado and washington saying we're going ahead with pot being a-okay, but it's a federal crime. what is the federal government going to do? could they shut it all down?
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>> reporter: this is the $64 billion question, what is the federal government going to do? the only thing thegsd so far is they're reviewing the laws in both states. they're going to sit back and see how they implement it and see where they can go from there. they reminded both states pot is illegal on the federal level. the concern is when you create havens of legal pot in colorado and here in washington state, and you have a black market around them, what's going to be the effect? are these going to be magnets for illegal pot? are you going to have problems
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on the border and lots of pot out there? it's not clear right now. they're waiting to see how it goes. >> thanks very much to miguel. appreciate it. miguel is talking about marijuana and it got us thinking about the war on drugs. it cost this country more than a trillion dollars since it was launched by president nixon as the war on drugs 40 years ago, but the effort is increasingly dubbed a failure and waste of money. here's former president bill clinton. >> well, obviously, if the expected result is that we would have -- eliminate serious drug use in america and eliminate the narco-trafficking networks, it hasn't worked. >> maybe he regrets not inhaling. president clinton appears in the and it became almost more fashionable to drink with prohibition than without prohibition. so, you know, over the last two years i've become part of something called the global drug commission. it's got many ex-presidents on it.
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we've examined all the facts, and the commission as a whole has said that we believe that drugs should be treated as a health problem and not a criminal problem. >> you have an amazing statistic in the op-ed you wrote for cnn saying we spend about $30,000 a year to incarcerate an inmate, people that go to jail for drug use, but wi spend an average of urnld $12,000 for a public school student. >> it's terrifying. there are 800,000 people in prison for smoking marijuana today in america.
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an enormous amount of people. it would be so much better if they were out of prison being useful members of society. we just put out a film tomorrow, my son made called "breaking the taboo" which puts across alternative ways. >> if legalizing or allowing as part of the solution here, what would you legalize? just pot? other drugs as well? >> look, i think what the commission is saying and these are people who when they were in power did not have the bravery to do something about it, and they all accept that. now they're out of power. they've realized they made a big mistake not doing something. >> jimmy carter, bill clinton? >> exactly. so what they're saying is, first of all, treat drugs as a health problem and not a criminal problem. anybody who uses drugs, you know, do not lock them up. if they use them in excess like if somebody uses alcohol, then help them. >> there have been studying done on marijuana that show among younger people that use it that it is often a gateway drug, that people who use it and get used to it will experiment with harder drugs, cocaine, heroin, or whatever it might be. does that concern you, or do you think that's not a fair concern? >> i think the possibility that people who go out on the street to buy their marijuana are going to be pushed to other drugs is
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considerable. i think if it's regulated and taxed and monitored properly by the authorities that goes away. it pulls the rug out from under the drug pushers. >> what about the harder drugs, cocaine and heroin? >> what we propose with the harder drugs is do what portugal has done, and that is let the state set up clinics throughout america that if you have a drug problem, you go to that clinic and give them the methadone until they're ready to come off. when they're ready to come off use a drug clinic that costs a third of the price of a prison to get them back into society again. >> you're not making it legal to buy heroin or cocaine? >> no. what you did by having the state provide it to people who have a problem is completely pull the rug out from people pushing it. >> when this country has the office of national drug control policy, long acronym and we have a lot of groups dealing with this. when we asked them about the film and about the idea of sort of legalizing and focusing on drugs that way, they said we spend more on drug education and
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treatment than they do on law enforcement. what could they do better? >> they could simply stop locking people up. if you're sent to prison, you end up in a far worse state than if you're actually sent to a drug rehabilitation center and helped. >> let me ask you, because you're known as a free spirit, right? do you smoke marijuana? >> i was a '60s lad. i tried when i was a teenager. i decided that drink is my drug of choice. so i prefer it to marijuana. whether the children of mine do, that's another story. >> i'm sure, right? they're in the age where i suppose it could be. all right. thank you very much.
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really appreciate your taking the time. >> cheers. thank you. >> pretty interesting and serious topic, although he did say afterwards he would want to try pot brownies. "breaking the taboo" will be available on youtube this evening. we should mention the opinion piece is on cnn.com/opinion right now. it is amazing. some of the statistics in there are unforgettable. "outfront" next, violent proceed protests in egypt. morsi draesed supporters and protests and buildings are on fire. chris christie goes to washington hands out with a request for billions of dollars. with the spark cash card from capital one,
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we reach out to sources around the world. tonight we go to cairo where protests have set a building on fire. this was following a speech by the president mohamed morsi, and tonight president obama spoke with morsi on the phone expressing his concerns about how violent the protests are.
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i asked why morsi's speech failed to calm anyone down. >> erin, egypt and much of the world anxiously waited to see if president morsi's speech would fas fi the two sides in this conflict and win over the opposition. based on on the reaction it did not. the president seemingly tried to do several things with the speech. he called for all political factions to get together and talk it out this saturday. he called for calm and issued a stern warning to protestors to stop the violence. he did not back down from his key position, that is, this controversial draft constitution will be voted on on december 15th, and the controversial decree that gave him additional powers he did not reverse them. he said that will only happen after the referendum. immediately after his speech, opponents of the president called for hisuster outside the palace. one of the muslim brotherhood offices was torched in cairo,
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signs that the conflict continues. erin. >> thanks. now to london where sir fines a man who is the greatest living explorer is taking on a new adventure crossing antarctica by foot. he asked about the conditions he faces. >> erin, he is already considered the world's greatest living explorer, but that is not enough for our sir reynolds finnes. he's marked the start of the coldest journey on earth. that is crossing the antarctic on foot in winter. we are talking more than 2,300 kilometers or 2,000 miles in almost complete darkness in temperatures that plunge to minus 90 degrees celsius. that is a truly life-threatening expedition, because as he told me, if anyone on his small team gets injured, they are on their own. >> if we run into problems like that, there is no help because in antarctica in winter all the
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rescue facilities shove off. that's why every government, the americans, the germans, our own government have rules. you do not let civilians go down there in winter because if something happens it will be an embarrassment to the government. >> after four years he got permission, and a ship is on its way. he'll join it in south africa, and there's one thing he's looking forward to before he sets off and that is a long, hot, soapy bath. it will be his last for six months. erin. >> now the fifth story. jersey shore meets fiscal cliff. chris christie was at the white house and on capitol hill today asking for more federal funding for the storm ravaged state. a republican is asking for more money from washington, as republicans slam the president for additional spending is, well, perhaps problematic. democratic senator chuck schumer whose own home state of new york was hard-hit pointed out the
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irony of christie's request today saying it doesn't come at an opportune time of the fiscal cliff, both the talks and the fact we're short on money. will it hurt his party or not? roland martin joins me. good to see both of you. ryan, you spoke very early on about how well you thought chris christie handled this sform politically and ever other way, but now he asks for fungd as republicans try to cut spending. is he hurting his own party? >> whether you're a republican or democratic governor you want to secure money from federal taxpayers. that's a classic move. it sure is. is it undermining republicans in congress? it probably is, but frankly chris christie is looking out for his own political future and it's his only option. new jersey is in a very tight fiscal situation because they have a balanced budget requirement. they can't run deficits the way the federal government can, and
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this has a huge impact on the state economy. frankly, i think you see more situations in which republican governors are going to be pitted against the republicans in congress because those governors, for example, they want that medicaid money to keep flowing and that money to state and local governments in the form of stimulus. i don't like it. other conservatives might not like it, but governors are in a unique position. >> please, please. can there really be one conversation where it is absolutely not so much all about politics. here's what i mean by that. if that was a natural disaster in south carolina, republican governor, texas, republican governor, tennessee, republican govern orr, that would do the exact same thing. the spoent of a governor, whether you're a democrat or republican, is to serve the
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interests of the citizens of your state. not your party. this is part of the problem, erin. if you're -- not only that. those same members of the congress, guess what? the new jersey delegation, i'm sure they're also saying, yes, governor do this. if it was in florida or some other state, this is exactly what you do when you have a federal disaster. so it's not about party. it's about the people who are hurt, who have had their homes damaged, not whether or not some politician can be able to say, oh, we don't like federal funding. >> row lanld, we're saying the same thing. we say this is what governors are likely to do. the question is is this actually aa smart thing to do? the deeper problems is -- >> yes. >> i disagree. when you look at state governments, when they're not on the hook for the money that you're spending, they're less
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likely to pursue responsible policies in the first place. you look at florida. that's a state that's actually sub sid diesing development in flood prone areas. new jersey is doing the same thing. they're rebuilding areas super vulnerable to the storms and that's bad decision making. when you expect federal taxpayers on the hook for that, don't make smart planning decisions about the future. they're covering their own butts, if you will, but they're doing something that's damaging the country as a whole and the fiscal future of the country as whole. >> when fires ravaged texas, governor perry was highly critical because he felt the federal government should have declared those emergency areas so they can qualify for what federal funds. the bottom line is it here. when you have natural disaster, this is natural, democrat or republican governors. forget the party. governor chris christie should not be concerned by the fiscal future. he could be concerned about every citizen in the state that he was elected to serve. his job -- those are his constituents and that's his job. >> look, i see where you come from. we have to think about this in a broader sense.
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if every state is looking out for itself, there's going to free ride. they're going to engage in policies that damage everyone's well-being over the long term by looking out for their own re-election prospects. these guys are being political rather than looking out for the long-term interests of their citizens, their states and also the country as a whole. rather than sub sid dies development in really dangerous areas. that's called moral hazard, and that's something that's really bringing the country to its knees economically. >> last i checked, you look out for yourself. you might say that's not a great idea, if you're in new york -- actually, no, if you're in new york you're concerned about new york and not about california. you focus on where you are. that's a reality. >> all right. thanks very much to both of us. please let us know what you think about that on twitter and the facebook page. "outfront" next, what's a bigger insult than being a called do nothing congress? being called a new york jet. [ nyquil bottle ] hey tylenol, you know we're kinda like twins. [ tylenol bottle ] we are?
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that's the same problem republicans are having. >> wow. for those of you who don't live in new york or follow football, the new york jets are an nfl team currently plagued by horrible things. infighting and embarrassing losses that culminating with mark sanchez's infamous butt fumble on thanksgiving. it shows how grim it is for the new york jets since their name is synonymous with failure and infighting. even when they won by a mechely point, their hometown paper slammed them. that was when they won. this also shows how far the gop has fallen. since mitt romney's big loss last month. like the jets there's finger points and nastiness. while the republicans haven't experienced their own butt fumble yet, they might not be far off. the jets last game of the season is december 30th, one day before the fiscal cliff deadline. it's time for the jets and the gop to take a long look where they are and where they want to be. no buts about it. piers morgan tonight starts now. [ ding! ] losing your chex mix too easily? time to deploy the boring-popcorn decoy bucket. then no one will want to steal the deliciousness. with a variety of tastes and textures only chex mix is a bag of interesting.
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